ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Jumping out ahead of Washington, New York state enacted the nation's toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.
What are your thoughts on the law?
As a NY gun owner, I am not happy. The law is not 100% bad. It did toughen some aspects of our mental health system and did offer stiffer penalties for those who would specifically target first responders. However, outlawing magazines, criminalizing an entire category of modern sporting rifles, and mandatory registration is too far of an over reach. As we know, the number of crimes committed with this type of firearm is miniscule. Whether a magazine holds 7 rounds, or 10 or 30 is mostly irrelevant. As always, punish the criminal, not an inanimate piece of equipment. Besides when a law says things like you can possess a 10 round magazine, but it is illegal to put more than 7 rounds in it, or my 10 shot .22lr Ruger 10/22 is now no good, (not the firearm, just the magazine is evil), but my 15 shot Marlin 60 .22lr is perfectly fine; the law is bad. There is no practical difference.
Of course the fastest reload has always been the New York reload. Now this is even more true.
ITS DOESN'T MATTER HOW STRICT THEY CHANGE THE LAWS. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO OBTAIN A FIREARM OR AMMO AND USE IT TO COMMIT A CRIME THEY CAN OBTAIN ONE ANYWHERE. MAKING TOUGHER LAWS WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING OR PEOPLES MINDS TO COMMIT CRIMES.
I am a life long rural New Yorker from the Adirondack region who's rights vanished overnight and watched a piece of America die 15JAn13 at 16:30EST. I spent my entire career in the military seeing the aftermath of "sensible gun laws". My family endures the results of "sensible gun laws" to this day. This was so hastily planned and rammed through there weren't provisions for LEO's. What sense did that make? How does one propose we cross state data with federal data without breaking yet another law (when conducting NICS for ammo purchases)? What happens to LEO's when the very suppliers of our gear are run out of business due to this overreach of government? Is the government going to enter the ammo and firearms business? Would you trust gear made by the government? Personally, when politicians start tinkering with our Bill of Rights, that merely emboldens them to attempt an end run around the remaining nine amendments. 30 rounds, 20 rounds, 10 rounds, one round, they all still kill when in the wrong hands. What's next, knives? Stop and Frisk may work for NYC and London; we're neither. Ask the Chinese LEO's how well firearms bans are working out there with respect to protecting their children. Ask the survivors of the Bath, Michigan massacre how well firearms laws protected them. Ask the average cop on the beat in England how that's working for them. We need to fix our society first and return to the day where LEO's were respected and admired for their sacrifices, not feared and loathed like we are today. We need to enforce our existing tens of thousands of firearms related laws on the books, not continue to add even more ineffective and costly legislation. Above all else, we need to keep first and foremost in our minds, a mere penstroke seperates LEO's from being a civilian subject to the same myriads of laws. Slippery slope... We've crossed the precipice.
This is ridiculous.....plain and simple. For anyone wondering what comes next, here is some food for thought. I have a friend that lives in Australia. In the wake of their firearms ban, they now have to register knives. You may only possess certain knives if they are registered and you are actually hunting or fishing, or enroute to do the same. The time to act is now.
NYS Assemblyman James Tedisco is correct; the New York law gives the people of the State of New York a false sense of security. Regardless of what new laws are passed, the criminals could care less. Criminals will continue to use knives, guns, pipes, etc. to harm others.
An example of the ineffectiveness of these laws can be seen in the 2009 crime statistics comparing Rochester, NY with Chattanooga, TN. Rochester has an ordinance that has prohibited assault rifles and shotguns with handles since mid-1994. During 2009, Rochester had 50 homicides and Chattanooga had 10 homicides. Chattanooga has a little less than 20k less in population. However, it is more dangerous to be in the city limits of Rochester than it is in the City of Chattanooga. "Dad, if the sheep had sharp teeth the wolf would not attack" (S. Bosch, 1984; 10 yrs. old). This 10-year old young boy had better sense than some adults in government, which is quite sad.
By the way, 6% of the law enforcement officers killed in 2011 were killed by the perpetrator using the Officer’s own gun. These are well trained LEOs. Criminals are able to get guns from LEOs by force. The law prohibits criminals from resisting and taking a firearm away from LEOs as well. The law didn't help these 6 LEOs. Now, what is this new law suppose to do?
In my professional opinion, I cannot see the positive effect of this new law in NYS. The Governor would have done more by (1) requiring those people owning assault weapons and more than 1 other firearm to purchase and use a tall gun vault where the guns had to be stored when not in use or carried on the person.
Consider what would have happened if Lanza’s mother had her firearms secured in a vault (without her son having access to same). She would not have been killed by a firearm, although I believe that Lanza would have used a knife at that point.
Also, consider the Newtown facts about Lanza. Regardless of his mental illness, he was unable to purchase a firearm at a gun store. A gun store refused to sell him a firearm, and the 14-day waiting period prevented him from getting the firearm. If the gun store owner had contacted the police about the suspicious behavior and request of Lanza, it is possible that history would have been altered (a proactive approach).
As such, (2) the Governor of the State of New York should have enacted legislation that requires gun store owners to contact law enforcement when a suspicious situation occurs, such as in the Lanza Newtown case.
The 2 suggestions are believed to be more effective in deterring a possible like shooting than outlawing assault weapons and requiring less rounds of ammunition in the magazine. The honest person will adhere to the Governor’s directives, but criminals, by their very nature, will totally ignore this law, as they ignore the present laws of the State of New York. This new law is truly sad, and the Republican Senate should have protected the people of the State of New York from such knee jerk legislation. This law should be repealed.